The MLO Project
Dismantling the Status Quo, One Episode at a Time.
The MLO Project is THE podcast for loan officers and industry professionals who are ready to evolve. We’re here to disrupt the old guard, break free from outdated norms, and deliver insights that actually matter.
Hosted by mortgage industry veterans Jason Frazier & Michael McAllister, The MLO Project promises No fluff. No clichés. Just real talk, fresh ideas, and actionable takeaways to elevate your career and the industry.
The MLO Project is presented by Empower LO
Podcasting since 2025 • 41 episodes
The MLO Project
Latest Episodes
Striking Out! Why You’re Losing Clients You Closed | Ep. 41
“Strike Rate, Stale Leads, and Regret”In this unfiltered episode of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael go off the rails (and the map) with a fiery breakdown of one of the most neglected goldmines in the mortgage business:...
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Episode 41
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Are You Paying Attention? Data Is the New Commission | Ep. 40
In this high-energy episode of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael come in hot fresh off AIME’s Fuse 2025, breaking down lessons, laughs, and the unexpected win of a 7:00 a.m. breakout session that packed the room.
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Episode 40
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34:51
Got Mortgages? Got Receipts. Got Results w/Abdel Khawatmi | Ep. 39
Abdel Khawatmi didn’t just show up—he dropped a masterclass.From building a consumer-direct and partner-driven hybrid model, to running multiple AI-driven systems, to scaling a team while still showing up like a ...
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Episode 39
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44:28
Why AI Won’t Save Bad Loan Officers w/Luke Shankula | Ep. 38
After months of build-up, calendar mishaps, and playful trash talk, Luke Shankula finally joins Frazier and Michael on The MLO Project. This episode delivers on all fronts: insights, shade, real talk on AI, marketing, lead gen, ...
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Episode 38
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38:31
I'll Educate You Whether You Want It or Not w/Hammer Helmer | Ep. 37
Episode OverviewHammer joins the MLO Project for what might be their most offensive (and honest) episode yet. From lock advice to social media strategy, Hammer breaks down what's actually working in today's market - and what's com...
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Episode 37
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